This is why we need much, much harder regulations on smoking. Although banning cigarettes would certainly help the public health of the country, it would also contribute to inequality. It would be far more difficult to make cigarettes illegal or pot legal than to stick with the status quo, especially with all the received wisdom and misinformation that has been pumped into the debate so far. Why does e-cigarette maker Juul advertise its product on TV when cigarette ads are banned? I'm not trying to attack smokers here, it just seems illogical that something that has been proven to be so bad is still legal. Nicotine is highly addictive and can harm adolescent brain development, which continues into the early to mid-20s. Lv 6. And there aren't zero benefits. 0 0. It however makes 0 sense for weed to be illegal. Cigarettes make the governments a lot of money. I'd imagine something similar (or at a much larger magnitude) would happen if we made cigarettes illegal. Eating yourself to obesity will give you diabetes. The short answer: Because it can. Carbon Monoxide is a byproduct of any incomplete combustion resulting due to a lack of oxygen and incredibly toxic as are the other various partially combusted hydrocarbons. It's hoped scary pics will put people off. Lv 6. The real answer is to ban nothing for personal private in home use. While the prohibition of all tobacco products may be unlikely to go-ahead in the short-term, the vast majority of e-cigarettes could soon be banned in New York state. I believe it is in Big Tobacco's interest to lobby for Marijuana, IMHO. I guess I should stop asking for informed opinions, when all I want is to be agreed with.". A person's right to harm themselves becomes debatable in a publicly funded health care system. State and local governments made $17 billion off tobacco taxes in 2011. If the U.S. placed a ban on cigarettes, a significant portion of its population could find itself addicted to a newly illicit substance. 0 0. Someone with power wanted it that way. The United States tried prohibition on alcohol in the 1920's through the early 30's. In 2012, Yishan Wong, the site's then-CEO, stated, "We stand for free speech.This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. If cigarettes were illegal the black market would explode. It’s true: e-cigarettes aren’t harmless. Right now, the answers aren't clear. I don't think you realize how bad second hand smoke is, Because they make governments lots of moneys, Because grown ups can make their own choices. I'd add to that the effects of tobacco aren't the kind that alter your judgement or perception like alcohol or other drugs. Your answer doesn't get to the nub of the question - why are people allowed to self-harm with cigarettes and alcohol but not cannabis and cocaine? The environment also suffers when cigarette smoking continues. Smokers are already driven into corners in most big cities. A statewide ban on the sale of flavored tobacco products, including menthol cigarettes, is set to take effect on Monday. For nearly 50 years, cigarette advertising has been banned … 2. ChaCha. Eating cold-cuts will give you cancer from nitrites. I guess there are too many smokers on reddit. 5 years ago. People on this thread are forgetting about second hand smoke. I guess it just became too engrained in society before people realized the health concerns. There are several Quora questions that are close to this one, but this one's a little different so I guess it shouldn't be redirected. While the prohibition of all tobacco products may be unlikely to go-ahead in the short-term, the vast majority of e-cigarettes could soon be banned in New York state. They should be banned, along with alcohol, overeating, and premarital sex. Tobacco is a ₹35,000 crore industry employing 36 lakh people and contributes 10% of India's total excise revenue, of which nearly 90% is contributed by cigarettes. The shares of ITC, the top cigarette producer, shot up 10% after the ban. Illegal selling of cigarettes is likely to follow a ban, if not enforced properly. The addictive nature makes it a difficult thing to stay away from once it has been experienced. In 2012, Yishan Wong, the site's then-CEO, stated, "We stand for free speech.This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. The only reason cigarettes aren't banned is because they make a lot of money each day despite what they do to people because they don't care they only care about the millions of dollars they get each day for them . Also you may say it's a freedom to harm yourself(and like I explained above it will harm others as well) but smokers may begin when they're teenagers or even kids, so they get addicted when they're little, most likely due to peer pressure, and will have trouble giving it up in the future. On a side note, it's why you no longer see labels like lights, ultra lights, and see color coded names for various strengths of cigarettes instead(for the lighter strength types of cigs). If Marijuana was legalized in the United States, the "evil" tobacco industry would become the leaders of the new Marijuana industry. Person 1: "Well, that question was a failure; all the answers I got weren't the same as the answer I had already formulated myself and just wanted reinforced. Bob Greene: Cigarettes would never be … Banning driving would be silly, but having zero laws on driving also probably isn't the best way to go. 17 billion, probably just a drop of water compared to how much it saved by people dying 10-20 years earlier. It took me a long time to realize the fact that our government operates under the assumption that people can do whatever they want to harm themselves as long as they are of rational mind and that same action can't and won't harm others. The reasons of not banning is multi fold: 1. Luckily those are pretty decent, as well. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. 1 E-cigarettes can contain other harmful substances besides nicotine. E-cigarettes will be banned in India with immediate effect, Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman announced on Wednesday. - Brandon Stump, Charlie's Chalk Dust CEO Stump doesn’t want to be priced out of the market due to government intervention. They should be banned, along with alcohol, overeating, and premarital sex. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the NoStupidQuestions community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The only reason cigarettes aren't banned is because they make a lot of money each day despite what they do to people because they don't care they only care about the millions of dollars they get each day for them . Cigarettes doesn't harm just the user, they harm everybody around them, I believe this is called passive smoking. Now that we know just how horrible they are for us, those with the power are preventing the laws from being changed. It is not the government's job to protect people from themselves. There are people who insist on their right to smoke. Have a little think about all the crime and money involved in the illicit drug market - … Envisioned as a tool to combat tobacco addiction, electronic cigarettes … Cigarette smoking is a dangerous habit that not only affects the user in a negative physical and psychological way but also endangers others around them. San Francisco's e-cigarette ban comes on top of a 2014 ordinance that banned the sale of e-cigarettes where traditional tobacco products are already prohibited, which includes within 500 … Since the mid-1960s, the number of smokers has declined substantially. Cigarette smoking causes numerous health issues, including fatal cancers. The same should go for all drugs in my opinion. In 2009, the Food and Drug Administration banned the manufacture and distribution of flavored cigarettes, such as chocolate and cherry, over concerns that … If a company was just bringing out the first cigarettes onto the market they would be banned by all countries,on the grounds of health issues,so why aren't they banned NOW!!! How can pot still be illegal is many parts of the world and cigarettes aren't? Arsenic is even included in the list of items that are included in a cigarette. American spirits does sell "Organic" cigarettes, but the idea quite frankly ridiculous. Taxable addictions. How about we worry about making things legal, instead of giving governments more things to make illegal? Cookies help us deliver our Services. Why It’s Easier to Ban E-Cigarettes Than Guns They both pose public health issues—but very different ones Walmart and elected officials are just saying no to electronic cigarettes. If a company was just bringing out the first cigarettes onto the market they would be banned by all countries,on the grounds of health issues,so why aren't they banned NOW!!! Have a little think about all the crime and money involved in the illicit drug market - … This is somewhat an opinion; I hold it and I claim most people do as well, to varying degrees. As far as I know it does chemically relax you. See: Gambling, Alcohol, Internet. Smokes are a 100% impulse 'want'. You really need to ask? Because it's nice and doesn't make you incapable of performing simple tasks. As far as I know, flavored cigarettes have been banned nationwide for some time. Press J to jump to the feed. Why do you think people are so weak that they need Holy Mother State to dictate them every single rule? Governments make a load off the taxes, and replacing that money would be hard. r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. Gambling destroys lives and families. But for the most part, the government simply cannot (and, I claim, should not) be tasked with policing all of the things we can do to potentially harm ourselves. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The last experiment with making a widely-consumed drug (alcohol) illegal didn't work out too well. The social news site Reddit has occasionally been the topic of controversy due to the presence of communities on the site (known as "subreddits") devoted to explicit or controversial material. The tobacco lobby is delighted with the ban on e-cigarettes, which will boost cigarette and bidi sales. In 2009, the Food and Drug Administration banned the manufacture and distribution of flavored cigarettes, such as chocolate and cherry, over concerns that … Cities throughout the nation are considering banning all e-cigarettes and vaping devices or raising the legal age for purchase to 21. Then why are there helmet laws, seatbelt laws, barriers on the side of the road, nutrition facts on food, poison labels on bleach, etc? I'm a million times more humble than thou art! Plus it's sort of a built-in diet plan. I know cigarettes are dangerous, I don't smoke them, but if someone else wants to poison himself, that's none of my business. Clove cigarette makers like Djarum dealt with this ban, by moving to sell clove cigars instead. There are many toxins in cigarettes. Cities throughout the nation are considering banning all e-cigarettes and vaping devices or raising the legal age for purchase to 21. Why aren't cigarettes banned around the world? Tradition and inertia. To most people, including myself, the best balance is somewhere in between, and it's a matter of opinion and philosophy. No government who makes all the smokers go cold turkey is going to do well in polls no matter how many lives it saves. I don't think there will ever be a moratorium on tobacco. The one thing I want to bring to your attention. When? Cigarette smoking should be banned. Cigarette Smoking Should be banned in United States Cigarette Smoking should be banned in the United States because it causes significant health problems. A much better question is why so many other things are illegal, but yes, it seems inconsistent. This is made especially difficult when cigarettes are tried at a young age. The shares of ITC, the top cigarette producer, shot up 10% after the ban. Cigarettes doesn't harm just the user, they harm everybody around them, I believe this is called passive smoking. Cookies help us deliver our Services. There are things the government can do to make it safer for us, but how far should these policies go? In the first episode the warden says they are banning cigarettes in the prison. It has become a cleaner, healthier world. They go far beyond the inclusion of the tobacco plant. Most cases were among teens and young adults. The Union government on Wednesday banned e-cigarettes in India, citing health risk to youths and children. The same reason why pot is illegal. The tobacco lobby is delighted with the ban on e-cigarettes, which will boost cigarette and bidi sales. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. There are some authoritarian communities that push harder for regulation on things that are harmful to the consumer (see Berkley's recent local soda tax), and plenty of libertarians t hat go to the other way. This question comes from Mohammed, one of our viewers who lives in Egypt. This is the perfect answer. It’s true: e-cigarettes aren’t harmless. But the juxtaposition, which is often drawn with alcohol as well, is a pretty blatant contradiction in public policy. Drinking booze can destroy your liver. :(. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. They're severely unhealthy but don't impair you so the government accepts it's bad health impact for the money it makes. Here's an answer to your question." Why cigarettes are here to stay. The war on drugs is mostly bullshit (my opinion) and people are slowly coming around to a more balanced perspective on what is and is not harmful and what role the government should have in regulating this (another claim of mine). Tobacco is responsible for nearly one in five deaths in the whole country; also the smoke contains monoxide that reduces oxygen- carrying ability of … Because people should have the right to choose what they ingest; their bodies are their own, not the government's. Protesting smoking is just infringing on people's freedom. Bob Greene, CNN Contributor Updated 11:24 AM EDT, Tue April 30, 2013 Story highlights. I completely agree! They might tolerate state-imposed health-advise, but being entirely prohibited from smoking might cause them to no longer vote for the politicians who supported the ban. The US lost millions of dollars in taxes. I'm curious if you're also for net neutrality, given that statement. The US did something similar with alcohol back in the '30s, and that ended up doing more bad than good. There are economical interests. We now know that it seriously harms people, and causes 110,000 deaths every year. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Person 1: "I have a general question about a topic I'm fairly uninformed about" Person 2: "Oh, aren't you in luck, I happen to know a lot about the subject. Knowing how addictive cigarettes are and the popularity around the 50's these things should be worth their weight in gold. Person 1: "I have a general question about a topic I'm fairly uninformed about", Person 2: "Oh, aren't you in luck, I happen to know a lot about the subject. You will not be relaxed from your first ever cigarette, smokers become relaxed because their body has adapted to smoking, and needs those chemicals. So people don't usually smoke by their choice, they start doing it and can't stop. Why are cigarettes, nothing more than a deadly drug, still legal? The Union government on Wednesday banned e-cigarettes in India, citing health risk to youths and children. They banned smoking in private places of business where the general public likes to go, but doesn't in fact have a right to be. And with the FDA piling on, the assault on vapes has never been so heavy. The exhaust from your car causes cancer. ChaCha. Here's an answer to your question. ", Person 1: "Well, that question was a failure; all the answers I got weren't the same as the answer I had already formulated myself and just wanted reinforced. Why should the government have any power over this? The social news site Reddit has occasionally been the topic of controversy due to the presence of communities on the site (known as "subreddits") devoted to explicit or controversial material. Yeah but I don't want to inhale smoke every time I walk by you. Addicts need charity, not a prison cell. "Why aren't we talking about banning cigarettes?" But any of these bans would end in catastrophe. Their infrastructure is already there, they can harvest, roll, and pack hundreds of joints per minute. Tobacco in nearly all its forms is unsafe and unhealthy. The use of e-cigarettes is unsafe for kids, teens, and young adults. The California Assembly on Monday approved a ban on the retail sale of flavored tobacco products in the state, with supporters saying it is needed to … A government can try to ban anything, but in case of tobacco there are various reasons not to. If humans are not going to take it upon themselves to decline the use of these dangerous products, then a ban may need to be implemented. But sadly, many start smoking at a terribly young age. Most e-cigarettes contain nicotine. Prohibiting e-cigarette flavors was a first step towards decreasing children's interest in partaking in vaping, yet Stump believes a ban could lead to another problem altogether. 5 years ago. Our environment has undergone many changes that have mad… The first time I ever saw a flavored cigarette was on deployment when one of the British RAF girls gave me a grape one. The war on drugs is its own crazy corrupt thing, but it wouldn't be unreasonable to argue that things like Meth and Heroin cause a lot of harm to people other than those using it, even if it is only indirect. That, IMO, is down to history, public perception and political bribery. E-Cigarettes Banned In India: The centre today banned e-cigarettes in India in a move which has raised questions over the side-effects and health hazards of vaping, the term used as a … Edit: Do you think that cigarettes will ever become illegal? Smoking is now banned in most places and smoking related illnesses like heart disease, lung cancer and other respiratory diseases have declined. I completely agree! I had a similar question earlier... didn't end well. I know I'll get attacked for this, but a lot of states did not in fact ban "public" smoking. Also, did you ever see Oz? But any of these bans would end in catastrophe. Counterexample: You can't go out on a boat without a certification, even though it's hard to argue how you'd be hurting anyone else in that situation. A riot immediately breaks out. :P. There are zero benefits from cigarettes. Honestly, I think it's because the government makes a fuckton of revenue off of it. And with the FDA piling on, the assault on vapes has never been so heavy. Think about driving, which kills about 50,000 people a year. They're very harmful and highly addictive yet there's only graphic images on the boxes. You really need to ask? Doesn't make any sense. All that did was put the Mob in the alcohol business, big time. This quote from an op-ed piece on CNN sums it up pretty well, I think: Politicians would be terrified to do it -- there are an estimated 45 million smokers in the United States, and no one is going to risk alienating them by completely cutting them off from cigarettes. The US did something similar with alcohol back in the '30s, and that ended up doing more bad than good. Nearly 200 e-cigarette users have developed severe lung disease in 22 states (and the numbers keep rising — a Washington Post story put the number at 354). No medicare and pension going on for decades... Basically, people should have the freedom to harm themselves. Cigarette smoking is a dangerous habit that not only affects the user in a negative physical and psychological way but also endangers others around them. There are absolutely zero benefits to smoking and countless dangers, and everyone knows it, even seasoned smokers. Some studies have shown that e-cigarettes help people smoke fewer regular cigarettes, while others have demonstrated only … No one protests cigs because if you don't want to smoke it's literally a freedom to smoke or not. Are people who insist on their right to choose what they ingest ; their bodies are their own, the... 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