OUT OF STOCK (11) Savage Arms B MAG .17 WSM 22" 8+1. If you are experiencing difficulties posting in the Buy/Sell/Trade subforums of TFL, please read the "sticky" announcement threads at the top of the applicable subforum. Your can support this channel on patreon.https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?c=1418208Your support is greatly appreciated. I have a Savage in .17 WSM ($14.99/50 at wally world here), Boyds stock, Vortex scope (Crossfire I think). I'd get a .223 before the .17 Hornet - the ammo is about half-price, and it's a more versatile caliber. You guys are the best. Using its superior velocity, the .17 can and will knock down any coyote within 150 yards as long as you hit your mark. I shoot my CZ 527 22 Hornet a lot, for several years now and like it more every time I shoot it. I also shoot .17 HMR, .222, .22 Hornet, and .223 in small caliber rounds. When the V-Max.22 Mag load is zeroed at 100 yards it drops almost that same amount at just 200 yards. are expensive to shoot rimfires. The rotary magazine Ruger 77 series of rifles began in 1983 with the 77/22, an adult-sized .22 rimfire designed to have the same heft and feel as a centrefire. The decision for which round is better for a given application should be made with complete information, and this article simply serves as a comparative guide, not the final say. Initial loadings were with a 20-grain bullet, delivering muzzle velocities around 3,000 ft/s . Won't be found in small places either. Released in 2012 by Winchesterand put into production in 2013, it is still available in a limited number of firearms, with the most widely distributed being produced by Savage Arms and Ruger. Man, things hit with my .17HMR just blow the heck up when hit with the 17. Aguila also made a .17 rimfire, the .17 PMC/Aguila, but it never became popular. Won't be found in small places either. The .223 is marginal for coyotes, and it packs more punch than the .17s. The Fireball is by far the most fun to hunt with for groundhogs, fox, and coyote. I just wanted an all weather truck/ATV gun to tote around on my property and choose the Encore barrel Not promoting the gun, just the cartridge. I think it would be a bit on the light side for duiker and baboon. That was done with the intention to improve its ballistic capabilities. Loaded, the Hornet is approx. Most rimfire rifle builders chamber for both. Than the 22 MAG or the 17 HMR. Massively better performance. I'm a .17 dissenter. The .17 Hornet, son of the classic .22 Hornet that our grandfathers delighted in shooting, is a well-balanced design. I got it cheap, years ago. I hope that makes some type of sense. Those tiny .172-inch diameter pills will certainly get the job done on the smaller game animals such as squirrels and rabbits, as well as the furbearing mammals like foxes, bobcats and even coyotes, at closer ranges. The ammo is selling for 17.99 for the 25 grain bullet. The .22 Hornet traces its lineage back to the .22 WCF. The .22 Magnum is a very good cartridge IMO and the 30 grain poly tip loads give increased velocity for a slightly flatter trajectory, which will give you a little more usable range on smaller critters. I had a friend that was prolly 7-8 yr old at the time that shot deer with his. I am a Hornet fan and have shot a lot of stuff with it....mostly rabbits, squirrels, and turtles. 2-3%, maybe, which is kind of minor, to my way of thinking. Occasionally I have failure to feeds. We will be discussing about their ballistic performances, which is a better choice for plinking, small game, and varmint hunting. The >17 is usually loaded with a .17 gr bullet. That is to say, .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum bullets travel 3.4 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while .22 Hornet bullets travel 3.1 times that same speed. It descended from the .27 caliber nail-gun blank by necking down the blank case to take a .17 caliber (4.5 mm) bullet. One day I'll take it to my local gunsmith and have the action smoothed, maybe true things up a bit. Hornet would be my choice since I load. Savage B.Mag Heavy Fluted Barrel Bolt .17 WSM 22.0" 8+1 Laminat. But I'll gripe about the bolt. Might be. Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. I don't think I ever bought a box of factory. An accurate .17 WSM is a good choice too, but still not anything like a .17 Hornet for longer shots. The .22 Hornet has a MPBR of less than 200 yards. With decent bullets it should kill much more effectively than a .17. I have used the 22 mag a bit. 17 HMR was made by reducing .22 Magnum case in order to accept .17 caliber bullet. Now I know it wasn't asked about, but 17 Winchester Super Magnum is some kind of round too. That hasn't always been the case. For a 'walkabout' rifle, it's a consideration. With lighter, faster projectiles, .17-caliber rimfires such as the .17 WSM and .17 HMR offer some advantages over more established rimfires like the .22 Long Rifle. I have a .17 HMR and have used it successfully on rabbits, prairie dogs and have seen it used on a Bobcat. If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. 29 Aug 2013 #1. The 17 HMR is a very popular round, available from multiple manufacturers — CCI, Hornady, and now Norma. While the .17 Hornet peaks my interest, I have no real reason to think that it will do anyting that the Fireball won't do better. Comments have to be approved before showing up, © 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum vs .22 Hornet Ammo Comparison - Ballistics Info & Chart. All current production rimfire and hornet rifles are threaded receivers. I generally start on a town with the .17 HMR, then after most of the dogs within its range are either dead or in their holes break out the .17 Hornet. 22 Hornet drops 5.8" and is blown off target by 7" in a meagre 5 MPH cross wind The 17 Hornet - drops only 2" and drifts 2.8" in comparison. Rimfire Showdown: .22 WMR vs. .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM A hardcore ballistic shootout with three of the best rimfires of all time. I'd combine one of the rimfires with a .17 Hornet. What about a .223Rem? But when it comes to bigger pests, there's one that performs better than the other. Ich möchte mir in nächster Zeit eine Büchse kaufen, mit der ich in erster Linie trainieren und Füchse bejagen will. It just depends on how much of your money you're ok with leaving on the ground as you walk away. I did a quick look with google and the .22 Hornet is far superior. Guns are cheap for it also. Really?? The rotary magazine Ruger 77 series of rifles began in 1983 with the 77/22, an adult-sized .22 rimfire designed to have the same heft and feel as a centrefire. Today we will be discussing the advantages and disadvantages of 17 HMR vs 22 LR. Hier kommt unter anderem das Kaliber .17 ins Spiel: Bishr lediglich .17 HMR, nun auch zunehmend .17 WSM. It gained widespread acceptance and the current catalogue offers nine models of the 77 marque in five calibres - .17WSM, .17 Hornet, .22 Hornet, .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum. .17 Winchester Super Magnum, is a rimfire rifle cartridge developed by the ammunition company Winchester in 2012. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum vs .22 Hornet ammo rounds. Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum round averages out to 400 ft-lb, while a .22 Hornet round averages out to about 710 ft-lb. So a .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 400 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .22 Hornet round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 710 pounds over the same one foot distance. Accurate at 100 yds beyond description. I suppose Winchester was feeling left out. Not very much I'd think. I have a rifle in all of these cartridges. I've even messed around with putting my 338 can on my 17 WSM. Even the cheapest stuff generally shoots pretty good out to a hundred yards. If you don't reload, go with the .22mag. There are three readily-available 17-caliber rimfire rounds now on the market: 17 HMR, 17 WSM, and 17 Mach 2(aka 17 HM2). i'm not into the .17 calibers. It gained widespread acceptance and the current catalogue offers nine models of the 77 marque in five calibres - .17WSM, .17 Hornet, .22 Hornet, .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum. I prefer the 22MAG over the 17 HMR. I'd get a .223 before the .17 Hornet - the ammo is about half-price, and it's a more versatile caliber. Die 17 WSM ist in dem Riesenmarkt USA gut etabliert und zunehmend Favorit der “Varmint”-Jäger, damit dürfte die Versorgung an Munition kein Problem sein. You can also fit more .22 WMR in your pocket than .22 Hornet. Mitglied seit 23 Jul 2012 Beiträge 14 Gefällt mir 0. 3) The 22 Hornet is extremely cheap the load for. The Hornet is a reloadable centre fire. Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum or .22 Hornet cartridge you're looking at purchasing. For Doves and Francolin you'll need to watch your shot placement with either..... For the bigger animals it should … Please click the above links to take a look at all of the .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum and .22 Hornet ammo we have in stock and ready to ship, and let us know any parting thoughts in the comment section below. His brother shot deer with a 218 Bee. OUT OF STOCK (32) Savage BMAG Stainless TH .17 WSM. When comparing the Hornady 30-grain.22 WMR V-Max load with the brand's 35-grain V-Max.22 Hornet load from rifles with equal-length barrels, the results are telling. I have a .22K Hornet and I can load ammo for close to the same price as .22 rimfire mag. Winchester created the round to be a dominant force in varmint eradication while retaining the simplicit… An accurate .17 WSM is a good choice too, but still not anything like a .17 Hornet for longer shots. Have owned a few Hornets and 17 HMRs, but nothing in those chamberings survived my personal down-sizing. .Because it's really nice to have more power than .22 LR, but still be able to eject the brass and walk away. This email contact address is not an "Ask the Firearms Expert" service. www.outdoorlife.com J. justin amateur Sergeant. But... the wind reallly blows those little 17s around. There is a short history of the .17 WSM because it has only been in production for less than a decade. Nothing against magnum, it's a lot more gun than 22lr. re: .17 WSM vs. .223/5.56 Posted by El Josey Wales on 8/10/13 at 1:22 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt Damn y'all. The .17 WSM was born from industry. This little rimfire is treading on the heels of centerfire varmint rounds like the .22 Hornet. In … I don't think those small differnces (especially in diameter) will allow 15-20% more WMR than Hornet in the same space. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. Winchester (Olin) used their .27" industrial blank case designed to drive concrete nails as the basis of the .17 WSM … Very limited in bullet weights too.) Being a reloader I think I'd go with a 22 K-Hornet. PX Member. Guten Abend! 22WMR launches a 40 gr at 2,100 fps, 22 Hornet launches a 40 gr at about 2,300 fps, I'm a .17 dissenter. Gulfcowboy: I own CZ Bolt Guns in both 22 MAG & 17 HMR. Meat spray for varminting … I have one of these in a Franklin Armory F17L. P.O. Top #2450152 - 02/28/13 10:34 PM Re: 17 Hornet vs. 22 Hornet [Re: … Very quiet but was pretty hard on case's. The Hornet is a reloadable centre fire. We will also be considering the price vs benefits test among the 22 LR and 17 HMR. The slight five-degree shoulder of the .22 Hornet was radically steepened to a 25-degree shoulder and blown-out to increase case capacity. They are all super fun and capable of taking care of your varmits. Für mich stehen zwei kaliber zur Wahl 17 Hornet und 22 Hornet. The .17 Win Super Mag is a win/win proposition on the performance and price fronts. https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/best-rimfire-cartridge-now/272837 That .17 WSM is a screamer and a hoot to shoot. Sep 27, 2020 #2 I have all 3, best option is the 17 hmr for my needs. And the widest part of the case (the rim), the Hornet is 0.056" larger in diameter than the WMR. Plus if you are going to reload, there is about 1 million recipes for the hornet. Thanks Interesting. The .22 WMR—commonly referred to as the .22 Mag—I feel is better suited for coyotes when compared to the .17 HMR. BalticScorpion; 1. Very accurate. Some of this may be due to the Boyds. My 22 Hornet feels like a rifle-rifle, and my rimfires are my rimfires. Why? Improve that Hornet shoulder and I think it would be a better cartridge. Handloaders would see no benefit on cost vs. the 22 Hornet. The 17 HMR is a very popular round, available from multiple manufacturers — CCI, Hornady, and now Norma. Neither of them will be as economical to shoot as a .22 Long Rifle, but I doubt you’ll be shooting either of them in the same volume you would a .22 LR. I have these calibers in other rifles too. I am also a huge fan of CZ rifles in these calibers you mention. My brother has a Hornet and envies me when he sees me eject .22 WMR cases on the ground and walk away*. But as far as consistency, looks, features, quality for the money, I really like CZ rifles. It was a toss up between the barrel for the already owned TC, or getting a CZ527 M1 with a synthetic stock, or a Savage bolt gun. The 17 Mach 2 (HM2) is making a resurgence, as it is less expensive than 17 HMR and it can b… Friend has a coule Hornet's years ago that we shot cast in. As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters look at when deciding on what caliber of firearm / ammunition to select. 1. Apr 21, 2012 1,399 850 65. We didn't do 22mgs in my family because we could load Hornet cheaper. You can get ammo everywhere, and get it cheap besides. Let us compare the CCI .22LR Stinger vs CCI .17HMR TNT to keep things fair. Col. Townsend Whelen and Capt. Massively better performance. Ammo can be found anywhere. The >17 is usually loaded with a .17 gr bullet. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. Looks like 35-55 for the Hornet. Speed kills, and the .17 WSM slaughters the .22 WMR in velocity, trajectory, wind drift, and retained energy. It descended from the .27 caliber nail-gun blank by necking down the blank case to take a .17 caliber (4.5 mm) bullet. Erfahrungswerte … But! The .22 Hornet is also known as 5.6×35mmR. Personally, I'm skeptical of both of them for anything larger than a fox. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. You'll be surprised at the long-range killing power of this little thumper, and you'll save a few bucks in the process. The rifle has a too light plastic stock and has a terrible bolt. As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and should not be used to make precise predictions of the trajectory, performance, or true ballistics of any particular .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum or .22 Hornet rounds for hunting, target shooting, plinking, or any other usage. The 17 Mach 2 (HM2) is making a resurgence, as it is less expensive than 17 HMR and it can b… I need to get in there and hog a bit more out. The .22 Mag(Starts at around $11.99 per 50.) It sticks about half way back and is not smooth at all. Leistungs- Reichweiten-Präzisionunterschiede 17 HMR vs. 22 Winmag vs 22 Hornet. The .22 Hornet is a vermin, small-game and predator centerfire rifle cartridge. 29 Aug 2013 #1. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. Ammo isn't terribly expensive. Its very gritty, like it needs polished or that machine marks are grinding against one another. But when it comes to bigger pests, there's one that performs better than the other. and .17 WSM($17.99 per 50. The majority of .17-caliber loads are centered around 20- and 25-grain bullets (there are component bullets as heavy as 30 grains), and the centerfire .17 cases attain some serious velocity. Januar 2012 #1; Hallo, kann mir jemand die Unterschiede der Kaliber 17 HMR, 22 WinMag und 22 Hornet kurz erläutern ? I just got my first .223 put together today, a TC Encore (I already had a couple of barrels for it). But be a good choice. We got some Savage B Mag rifles and 17 WSM ammo in the store I work at. I am looking at a h&r .22-250 with a heavy barrel and the remmy 700 LVSF in the 17. I always smile sitting behind it! However, my picks would be if buying today: I'd skip the .17, it's strictly for varmints and isn't good for a "walkabout" rifle IMO. Learned from above post ,factory ammo price. The .17 HMR loadings and/or rifles appear to be more consistently accurate. I prefer the .17HMR in my rifle. You can support this channel on patreon.https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?c=1418208Thank you in advance for your support. The Hornet load, when zeroed at 200 yards, drops 17.1 inches at 300 yards. The easy rimfire is the HMR, partly because ammo is so available, and partly because the A17 ammo in a bolt rifle comes pretty close to .17 WSM ballistics. Shooters who enjoy a traditional semi-auto rifle chambered in .17 WSM should check out the Volquartsen series rifles. Themenstarter Titus2012; Beginndatum 29 Aug 2013; T. Titus2012. If you don't, the rimfire .17 WSM will be a lot cheaper to shoot. Savage Model 25 Walking Varminter 17 Hornet im Test bei GearTester.de Büchse mit Synthetikschaft für das Raubwild und Krähen Kaliber .17 Hornet .22 minimum for that. There are three readily-available 17-caliber rimfire rounds now on the market: 17 HMR, 17 WSM, and 17 Mach 2(aka 17 HM2). Hornet rounds aren't THAT much fatter or longer than .22WMR. I agree, and have a contradictory perspective: The .22 Mag(Starts at around $11.99 per 50.) I've been a fan of the .22 WMR for more than 40 years. I've stated in this thread that I don't need one but y'all keep on justifying why I should get one. OUT OF STOCK (17) Savage BMAG .17 WSM STAINLESS. Januar 2012; Erledigt; 1 Seite 1 von 2; 2; BalticScorpion ***** Erhaltene Likes 13 Punkte 3.738 Beiträge 667 Lieblingswaffe: CZ75 SP-01, Smith+Wesson 617 Target Champion. how much more? 17 vs .22-250 - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: I am buying a new varmint gun to shoot pd's and coyotes. And I have some accurate rifles in all 3 calibers. Both the .17 HMR and .22 WMR are well-suited. FWIW, there is now a 17Hornet which is a pretty neat centerfire. I have never shot a 17 WSM rifle, so I can`t help you there. While the .17 Hornet — one of the slower centerfires of this caliber — bests the velocity of the .17 WSM by 650 fps, the rimfire .17s fill a needed void. I've shot a ton of critters with that caliber over the last forty years and it's a pretty decent gun out to around 150 yards on small critters and out to about a hundred on fox, coyotes, etc. Ackley also modified the venerable .22 Hornet, necking it down to .17, but Hornady’s 2011 release of the commercialized .17 Hornet grabbed some attention. The .17 WSM case is considerably larger than that of the .17 HMR or .22 WMR and holds more powder. I have a Savage in .17 WSM. .17 Winchester Super Magnum, is a rimfire rifle cartridge developed by the ammunition company Winchester in 2012. For more detailed ballistics information please refer to the exact round in question or contact the manufacturer for the pertinent information. I shoot my Bmag 17 WSM and CZ 527 17 Hornets suppressed nearly 100% of the time, they're both crazy quiet and are a lot of fun to shoot suppressed. I have not used the 17 caliber rifles. I've got a Marlin in 22 mag and seldom carry it around. Personally, I'm skeptical of both of them for anything larger than a fox. Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum round averages out to 400 ft-lb, while a .22 Hornet round averages out to about 710 ft-lb. The .17 WSM is not as solidly established but, based on potential, certainly should be. It is currently Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:05 am | Last visit was: Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:05 am All times are UTC Same reason.We also had some good days with the 22LR. Lighter, faster bullets stay in the air for a shorter period of time and therefore fall less, but for the 22WMR that sweet spot falls on the 30-40 grain bullets. The manufacturer wanted to replace old 5mm Remington Magnum Rimfire that was developed in 1970. Give me some input on both rifles. Aguila also made a .17 rimfire, the .17 PMC/Aguila, but it never became popular. 22 Hornet drops 5.8" and is blown off target by 7" in a meagre 5 MPH cross wind The 17 Hornet - drops only 2" and drifts 2.8" in comparison. So a .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic … Besides , the 17hmr is better than a 22 mag is allready, so get the hornet and make it a … Very limited in bullet weights too.) With that, oftentimes, the subject matter turns to coyotes and there's a clear winner in my eyes between these two calibers. Reloading is cheaper for this round and fun to reload. The .17 WSM tends to be a bit more expensive than the .17 HMR—the HMR costs between $0.20 and $0.30 per round, while the .17 WSM comes in at $0.30 to $0.35 per round—so if cost is an issue, the HMR may have a bit more appeal. 17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire or just 17 HMR is a rifle cartridge created by Hornady in 2002. Initial loadings were with a 20-grain bullet, delivering muzzle velocities around 3,000 ft/s . My Son & I also have 2 CZ 527 22 Hornets that are just turley fantastic both will shoot 1/2 inch or better at a 100 yds, with our reloads. Both the .17 HMR and .22 WMR are well-suited. Such emails will be ignored. The Hornet will have about the same velocity with double the bullet weight. If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin. Easily puts 5 rounds in a nickel at 100 yds using American Eagle 20 grn polymer tip. Winchester (Olin) used their.27" industrial blank case designed to drive concrete nails as the basis of the.17 WSM cartridge. Most of the 17 HMR’s can stay within that 3″ gopher pocket all the way out to 165 yards, with very little difference in trajectory between loadings. True .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum and .22 Hornet ballistics information can vary widely from the displayed information, and it is important to understand that the particular characteristics of a given round can make a substantive difference in its true performance. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The Art of the Rifle: Bolt, Lever, and Pump Action, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._22_hornet.JPG. The .223 is marginal for coyotes, and it packs more punch than the .17s. I only own is the .22 WMR Savage 93 out of all the cartridges being discussed. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum vs .22 WMR Winchester Magnum Rimfire ammo rounds. It is considerably more powerful than the .22 WMR and the .17 HMR, achieving higher velocity with a bullet twice the weight. Better choice of bullet styles...ballistic tip, hollow point, jsp and fmj. and .17 WSM($17.99 per 50. That was the gun his dad designated for him. It is more powerful, longest range, most accurate, and cheaper to shoot. are expensive to shoot rimfires. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. Interestingly, the impact energy also favours the 17 cal The 17 cal delivers 290 FPE compared to the 22 Hornets - 196 FPE Foundry Outdoors is your trusted home for buying archery, camping, fishing, hunting, shooting sports, and outdoor gear online. In 2012 Hornady brought out the .17 Hornet, based on, you guessed it, the .22 Hornet. legitimate 250 yd shots with a hornet is do-able, and will hit with much more energy than a 22 mag. If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. 17 Hornet vs. 22 Hornet. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. Both are very nice rifles and I really enjoy them and they are very accurate. One of my CZs is 22 Hornet. The bolt won't pick up the next rounds 100% of the time. Just a thought. My .22 WMR is used to hunt wild hogs on a large property where only rimfire rifles are allowed outside deer season. The .17 Hornet has a trajectory similar to the .223 with less energy than the .22 Hornet. Minuteman . Maybe Vervet monkey up to 100 yds or so. I use an old Mossberg 22 Mag. We have only had 3 or 4 boxes of ammo in so far. And plenty of power. Always heard these weren’t very accurate, but just read a test of the newer Savage Varmint model (Boyd’s laminated stock) and it was getting very decent groups (@ 50 yards.) Of course that’s a clever play on their centerfire WSM or Winchester Short Magnum trademark. If you don't, the rimfire .17 WSM will be a lot cheaper to shoot. I was so disappointed! A Marlin or Savage bolt action 22 mag would fit your bill quite nicley. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particula As illustrated in the chart, .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3000 feet per second (fps) while .22 Hornet rounds travel at a velocity of 2720 fps. Chambered with Clark’s unique match reamer; Head space is adjusted..22 LR, 17 HMR and .22 Magnum & .22 Hornet standard barrel length is 21.5″. Its rimfire lethality is far superior to anything stamped ".22 … If you reload it's crazy cheap to shoot. Interestingly, the impact energy also favours the 17 cal The 17 cal delivers 290 FPE compared to the 22 Hornets - 196 FPE It's new cartridge is the .17 Winchester Super Magnum or WSM. I did a quick look with google and the .22 Hornet is far superior. You can get .223 ammo everywhere and once fired brass is about free if you buy it, or totally free at a lot of ranges where no one wants to pick it up. If you reload, the Hornet is the way to go. I now need something with a bit more range/energy than a .17 HMR or .22 Mag., but “quieter” than my .22 Hornet (for groundhogs but maybe the occasional ‘yote.) Each new model sports an 18.5-inch stainless barrel with a 6-groove, 1-in-9 RH twist on the .17 caliber examples while the .22 Hornet comes to the party with a 1-in-14 twist. You can ALWAYS just eject the brass and walk away. I had to dremel some material out to get the mag to fit. I'm not sure it's any quieter with that big ole 338 can on there but it was fun messing around with it. The.17 WSM case is considerably larger than that of the.17 HMR or.22 WMR and holds more powder. Ammo costs per box of 50 run $12 to $13 for 17 HMR, about $1 less for .22 WMR, and $2 to $3 more for .17 WSM. Alright, time to lob another choice out there. Being a reloader I am a huge fan of 22 Hornet. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. 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