They “take a lickin’ and keep on tickin’. I myself am not so optimistic. I'm not acquainted with current factory loads for the 280, but based upon personal experience with both the 7x57 and 284 Win, I'd have no qualms about using them. For lighter bullets there will be about a 100 fps difference in velocity, and not much change in impact at normal hunting ranges. Thanks for all the experienced input. Nosler offers two Custom and two Trophy Grade loads for the .280 AI but that’s about the extent of factory-loaded options. Used the 160 PT in my previous 280 on whitetail, mule deer, elk and moose. FWIW, Dutch. Mar 14, 2017 #3 In my 280 Remington I used IMR4350 with 140 … Which is better? I would try both of these and hunt with … What, in your opinion would be the optimum bullet weight for the 280 as a mule deer/elk thumper? I had a Remington 700 MTN Rifle in 280 Remington and the only bullet I used for elk, deer, antelope, and coyotes was a 140 gr. No doubt the newer 280 AI will serve you just as well. On a Mauser 98 action it will reach way out there and with the right bullets elk, deer, bear, or moose are on their way to be in my freezer. My primary rifle for all large game hunting is a 30-338 wildcat and my secondary or backup rifle is a .280 Remington. 6. Mar 14, 2017 #2 I use R19 with 140gr Nosler Partitions. Partitions in my .280 and sold it before the Accubonds came out. Jul 15, 2015 #10 1. So although this seems very odd, Remington actually introduced the .280 Remington in their Model 740 semiautomatic, following with … You're good to go with a140 gr AB or 150 PT, I wouldn't hesitate to hunt elk or moose with my 280 using a 150 gr PT! Accubond had not been developed yet. It has no data for the 280 Rem. You’ve provided a caliber, which can fire a range of bullets. 270 vs 280 Remington vs 280 Ackley Improved vs 7mm Rem Mag: History. He took his .270 BAR loaded with 150 grain partitions, as that's what he had. You should consider a heavier stronger bullet though. However, it was introduced in a different time, when the ascendancy of the bolt action wasn’t as clear as it is today. Magnum primers work well with these propellants. I know the 150gr partition is a strong candidate. in the 150 gr bullet. Im using 154 Grain Hornady GMX bullet. Ron is right – there’s not a lot of difference. Remington .280 factory loads are currently offered with three different 140 grain spitzer bullets, all with a muzzle velocity of 3,000 fps and a muzzle energy of 2,797 ft. lb. This 6mm one opened pretty well for me at 2000 FPS. In reality, there's really not much a 7mm RM will do the 280 can't, esp when using factory loads in the RM. If you have a good load with the 150 grain Partition, you're golden. Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prized and toughest hooved big game animals around. 280 Remington As Goldilocks. He got a mature bull without issue. Bullets have since improved. .280 Remington Bullet Weight: 175 gr Case Trim Length: 2.530" S.D. Handgun Ammo Rifle Ammo 17 Hornet Ammo 17 Rem Fireball Ammo 17 Remington Ammo 204 Ruger Ammo 218 Winchester Bee … And Black bear. This variety makes it … Joined Feb 22, 2008 Messages 489 Location Memphis Tn. Partition, Accubond, or E-tip would all work very well. Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:17 am . Updated: May 10, 2019. My buddy has an Encore Pro Hunter in .280 and we're having issues getting a load that shoots well in it. 80 grains originally, 77.3 recovered thats 96.6% weight retention. I sold my .280 and now I have a .280 AI and shot my elk last year with one shot at 450 yards with a 140 gr. I'm comfortable on cow elk with a 140 grain Partition or a 140 grain AccuBond out of my .280. 0.310 Bullet Style: TSX FB Primer: Fed GM210M B.C. Neither seemed to me ideal for elk, though Wyoming outfitter Les Bowman and the Remington company promoted the round masterfully. Mag., doesn’t need a .280, but if you are looking for a cartridge with accuracy, reach, power, and manners, there are few better choices than the .280 Remington. You should have no problems with the 150PT. I may bring two rifles, the other rifle is a .300WSM Thanks in advance I think he would try to use them on anything that walked the earth. My 280 Remington Mountain rifle is light and recoil actually feels less than my little model 7 Rem carbine in 308 Win and they weigh about the same. In my old Remington 725 .280 Remington, 54.0 grains of IMR 4350 behind a 160 grains Nosler Partition bullet, chrono'd at 2882 FPS, works just fine on elk. Looking to bring my .280 Remington. Since the 270 Win is revered as an excellent elk round in many circles, then why not the 280? I get leery of Barnes in those small calibers, especially at low MV. There are also many more factory loads available for the .270 Winchester over the .280 Remington at a lower price point due to the .270's much greater popularity. Find 280 Remington Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. Joined: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:27 am Posts: 1625 You should have no problems with the 150PT. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. It can be loaded with everything from 100-grain Sierra Hollow Points to 195-grain Berger Elite Hunters. The .280 is fine. The 12 Best Cartridges for Elk Hunting. Both are just a tiny bit less powerful than the .280, but not nearly enough that any dead elk would notice. 57.0 grs MAX and well under MOA. In both cases, the .270 Winchester has a slightly flatter trajectory, but the .280 Remington has a tiny bit more kinetic energy at all ranges (about 5-10% at 500 yards). He’s even used it on African plains game. Looking for loads for a 280 Remington. As is the case with many other cartridges developed in the United States, the story of the .270 Winchester, the .280 Remington, the .280 Ackley Improved, and the 7mm Remington Magnum starts with the .30-06 Springfield. Remington currently produce four loads for the.280 including, the 140 grain Core-Lokt at an advertised 3000fps, the 140 grain Accutip at 3000fps, the 150 grain Core-Lokt at 2890fps and the 165 grain Core-Lokt round nose bullet at 2820fps. list velocities of 2,990 fps while Nosler’s 140-grain Accubond Ackley Improved loads get you 3,150 fps. Post subject: Re: Cow elk load for 280 Remington. The 280 Remington could be the Goldilocks of standard-length action hunting rounds. Never would I say the 7mag was more effective or killed em more dead. Ron is right – there’s not a lot of difference. I haven't tried a 140 grain bullet on moose in either, but Win 150 grain factory loads were fine in the 284, as were 160 grain Nosler handloads in the 7x57. Woodleighs or Noslers is a credible elk rifle depending on where and how you hunt..If you hunt the swamps, black timber where all shots are going away then the big bores like the 338, 9.3 and 375 are much better..If you hunt the sage brush, sidehills, you can't beat a 7x57, 270, 280 or 30-06 or thier ilk... Have a buddy that has a ton of rifles but they are all chambered in 280. The .280 served you well. You would shoot the bull elk that was closest, “looked bigger,” had the best shot at, or had the best angle for a good shot. And Mule deer. So far I have Nosler Partitions, Nosler AccuBonds and 140gr Barnes TSX bullets. All three were lung shot, and all were dead within 25 yards or so of where they were hit. Here's why. The 280 is the ballistic twin of the 270 Win and we all know its record on elk.........I've even killed moose with it and it works just fine. It has no data for the 280 … He only uses partitions for big game. Sounds like we have a lot of 280 fans out there. Shooting a Remington 7600 in this caliber has been a pleasure and super performer in the thick hardwoods as well as reaching out across a cut corn field. The January 2001 issue of "RIFLE" magazine has an article by John Barsness about custom bolt-action rifles. If you want to stick with Hornady, their Interbond would be the way to go. An elk shot by a client at 90 yards with a .270 reared up and toppled backward, spearing the earth with its great antlers to lie dead, belly-up. no worries. In the .280 section, he lists the following loads and results: powder charge velocity accuracy The 280 Rem is one of my favorites. I think the 280 and 7x57 with 175 gr. You aren't going to find a lot of choices and I admit I don't have a .280 but I can say that the basic Remington"CorLokt" .308 150 gn has done good work for me without excessive meat damage. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. You really don't need all that power and noise for elk. I used: Always enjoy those pictures, David. Home; My Account. The .280 Rem is an excellent choice and, if I might add, the .280 Ackley Improved offers the slight improvement that P.O. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. The .280 Remington debuted in 1957, but unfortunately it came along a few decades too late to become a monster hit because the .30-06 and .270 Winchester had running head starts. My most recent 8 Pointer didnt know the difference. What powder is working best for those who load .280 REM? Partitions in my .280 Remington for years and took numerous elk with it. My most recent 8 Pointer didnt know the difference. I stick with the slower powders such as Hodgdon 4831 and Reloder 22. For the 140 gr PT/AB/BT, try RL19. Otherwise a Nosler Partition would be my first choice. I’ve had very good luck with Reloder 25 and IMR 7828 as well. Although the 280 Remington was derived from the .30-06 case, it has a slightly different shoulder location and will not chamber in either .30-06 or 270 Winchester rifles. I am new to reloading so I'm picking up materials as I go along. Stick with lead. And Black bear. When I made my .280, I special purchased a barrel 28" long. Use 160 grain Partitions. My Account My Orders My Address Book My Password. I am wanting to get as much velosity as I can and still be accurate. If a Berger (hunting) VLD from a 7mm Rem mag can effectively kill bull elk with enough downrange velocity and energy out to 900 yards (with the right optics of course), as I`ve seen on TV, then certainly a 280 Rem can do the job within all reported (long and short) AVERAGE hunting distances for elk, which are mostly all within 500 yards. Ackley intended. What, in your opinion would be the optimum bullet weight for the 280 as a mule deer/elk thumper? My question is would a 150gr nosler bt be stout enough for the task? you can load some awsome rounds with the .280 people need to remember that elk were hunted to near extinction with the .30-30. the .280 is a good elk gun as long as you take the time to practice, practice shot placement , AND GET TO KNOW THE RIFLE. You can shoot factory 280 Remington loads in the 280 AI chamber to fire-form cases. A better choice for elk hunting than Remington’s big 7mm is tough to find. Did just fine. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests, Nosler Inc  |  Privacy  Use  Order Processing. I would feel more comfortable yet with my 7mm Rem mag on elk. Looking for any input from the seasoned veterans if this is enough gun for like a Kudu,Gemsbok, Waterbuck. Post subject: Re: Cow elk load for 280 Remington. Nosler Partition. Jan 26, 2012 #2 S. Shortmagman Well-Known Member. Take your pick. The Ideal Deer (and Occasional Elk) Cartridge. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. I used 140 gr. Either would be great. Regards, Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk . The 280 is an excellent round. Learned about 7MM rifles with my first Mauser in 1956 and elk are shaking in their hooves. My thought on them is you won't have enough muzzle energy before they stop opening on elk sized game. Log In Register. Looking for loads for a 280 Remington. Also known as the .280 Ackley Improved or the .280 Remington Ackley Improved, the .280 AI is basically a .280 Remington case (itself a .30-06 Springfield case necked down to 7mm/.284") that's been blown out to increase the powder capacity. A century ago, bullets were just getting used to high speed. Then, in 2019, Hornady introduced a 162-grain ELD-X bullet loaded in the.280 AI, adding it to the excellent Precision Hunter line of ammunition. I'd say go for it and just do the "good shot placement, decent ranges" thing. Otherwise a Nosler Partition would be my first choice. The .280 Remington deserves more respect. I took a little bull last fall with the 160 AB in my 7 mag and it performed "perfectly". If I want heavier bullets, I grab my 7mm Mag with 154 Interbonds. Based on the .30-06 case necked down to take a 7mm, or .284-inch bullet, the cartridge was introduced in 1957. If you are a handloader though, the choice is a no-brainer. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. I may bring two rifles, the other rifle is a .300WSM Thanks in advance I took a little bull last fall with the 160 AB in my 7 mag and it performed "perfectly". Shooting a Remington 7600 in this caliber has been a pleasure and super performer in the thick hardwoods as well as reaching out across a cut corn field. But Western Cartridge Company’s Lubaloy jacket, comprising 90 percent copper, 8 percent zinc and 2 percent t… And Mule deer. It has never had enough sales to support an extensive variety of factory loads, yet those who use it … My primary rifle for all large game hunting is a 30-338 wildcat and my secondary or backup rifle is a .280 Remington. "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say … Yeah it looks kinda funny but what it does for me is gives me Remington 7mm Mag. Does anyone have any pet loads for the .280 Remington? Craig Boddington As standard cartridges go, the .280 Remington has one of the oddest histories. Bowman favored the 150-grain bullet, observing it killed more quickly than the factory’s 175. 115 SW Columbia St | Bend, Oregon, USA 97702  |  Toll Free: Nosler Showroom / Open to the Public:  Monday - Friday 10:00 am to 5:30 pm PST. It’s a great cartridge saddled with an unfortunate legacy. Although the 280 Remington was derived from the .30-06 case, it has a slightly different shoulder location and will not chamber in either .30-06 or 270 Winchester rifles. Will I be able to get 3000+ with 140 Accubonds because that is the bullet I am wanting to use Thanks Ted . 0.417 COAL: 3.250" Barrel Length: 24" Case: Winchester Twist Rate: 1:10" Charge Velocity Charge Velocity Load Powder (grains) (fps) (grains) (fps) Density (%) RL … Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 280 Remington Rifle Rounds. Best 280 Ammo For Elk Montana Elk Hunting: 30-06, 270, 280 – The 30-06 Springfield, 270 Winchester and 280 Remington are the Timex watch of elk cartridges. I was wondering if anyone had any pet loads for the 280 Rem. The .280 Remington Cartridge The .280 was introduced by Remington in 1957. The 30-284 wildcat used the same loading data as the 30-06. Years ago my cousin went moose hunting in Canada with my uncle. However the data from Hodgdon shows 59 grains of H-380 for a muzzle velocity of 3005 FPS for the 30-06. Headed on my first plains game hunt in May. That's only because the 140 gr. If you want to stick with Hornady, their Interbond would be the way to go. Drive a .284 partition or X-bullet through an elk's lungs and it probably won't laugh at you for using a .280 instead of the mighty 7mm Remington Magnum. I keep bouncing between the 280 Remington and the 280 AI. 150gr Nosler Part and the 280 Rem seem to be a perfect match. Also, while the heaviest bullet offered in factory ammo is 160 grains, hand loaders can select 7mm bullets up to 175 grains. Remington and Federal both load premium bullets in … Notable post-war wildcats such as the . The .280 Remington debuted in 1957, but unfortunately it came along a few decades too late to become a monster hit because the .30-06 and .270 Winchester had running head starts. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. I’ve also had superb results with Berger’s 168-grain VLD Hunting. You should consider a heavier stronger bullet though. You can’t beat the .270 Winchester or the .280 Remington. The 12 Best Cartridges for Elk Hunting. I would think the heavier bullets and added velocity would shade the 280 in less than ideal conditions. Remington and Federal both load premium bullets in … Used my newest 280 and the 140 AB on my last elk. In 3 280s, Ruger, Remington, and Interarms, RL-19 has been the best powder choice for velocity, standard deviation, extreme spread, and accuracy. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. 54.0 grs shoots .400" at 100 yds and is a dandy elk … After the Great War, cupro-nickel, of 60 percent copper and 40 percent nickel, became the jacket of choice. velocities with half the recoil and powder. Listed below are North American Roosevelt and Rocky Mountain elk loads for most of the reasonably popular rifle calibers. They “take a lickin’ and keep on tickin’. I've killed elk with both the .284 Win and the 7mm-08 Rem. Updated: May 10, 2019. So as we can see the .280 is quite capable of doing the job. I also used the 140 PT in a 6.5 x 55 Swede on a cow elk at 370 years ago, … For the 160 gr PT/AB, try IMR4831. .280 Remington said: What he said. My Sierra manual shows 51.8 Gr of H-380 to be the max with a 150 gr bullet and my old … Seems to me like I should be able to load it with as much Hodgdon H-380 as my 30-06 with a 150 Sierra BTSP. Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:59 am Posts: 4438 Lots of people use the 150 gr bullet in the 06, and there is little difference between the two cartridges. The .280 is fine. I want some advice please. By Joseph von Benedikt. Looking to build/buy a 7mm rifle and leaning towards the 280 Remington. For example, all three of Federal Premium’s 140-grain loads for the .280 Rem. For elk, I would recommend the 160 grain bullet.....for mule deer, you … This is not a “through the shoulder” load; it is so accurate in my .280 I have no problem slipping it between the ribs on a deer or, if the … The 140-160 gr. Another, hit midships by a .280, staggered, fell and quickly died. To complicate matters, the velocities and trajectories of the 125-, 150- and 165-grain bullets offered in .280 factory loads were strikingly similar to 130- and 150-grain bullets of the .270. You’ve also not provided an estimated range or size of elk. Based on the .30-06 case necked down to take a 7mm, or .284-inch bullet, the cartridge was introduced in 1957. Let’s face it, a hunter who owns a .270, .30-06, or 7mm Rem. I shot nothing but 140 gr. My experience has been at under 200 yds with shots, generally, right behhind the front leg and they tend to go in, expand a bit, and go out the other side. Remington introduced the excellent .280 Remington in 1957, but it was poorly promoted, loaded to lower velocities than its full potential and had to compete with the well-established .270 Winchester. The 280 Remington is a fine shooter with almost all bullet weights. I'm sure the 280 would do just fine most of the time, but what about a long shot or a shot where the elk isn't in the best position. Joined Mar 2, 2001 Messages 395 Location ID - Boundary County. In my old Remington 725 .280 Remington, 54.0 grains of IMR 4350 behind a 160 grains Nosler Partition bullet, chrono'd at 2882 FPS, works just fine on elk. My go to now is a 280AI which takes care of bussiness nicely. Its flat arc and relatively light recoil appealed to hunters. 6mm Remington Very Active Member. Absolute elkicide. Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prized and toughest hooved big game animals around. Looking for any input from the seasoned veterans if this is enough gun for like a Kudu,Gemsbok, Waterbuck. You would shoot the bull elk that was closest, “looked bigger,” had the best shot at, or had the best angle for a good shot. Factory data has it exiting the muzzle at 2,850 fps, just 90 fps slower than the same bullet in Hornady’s 7mm Remington Magnum ammo. Im using 154 Grain Hornady GMX bullet. Not too hard, not too soft, not too fast, not too slow, but just right because it shoots mid-caliber .284-inch diameter bullets. With a probable cow elk hunt on the horizon what bullets should be my first choice. Just picked up a Ruger M77 Mark II in 280 that is a RMEF edition. Ted, I grew up in S.W. Part of his pitch for Remington’s big 7 was that it didn’t belt you like a .300 Magnum. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Ammo Freedom. My favorite load for the .280 serves double duty on unruly groundhogs and coyotes and usually gets the call for our whitetails, Speer’s 115-grain hollow point and 58 grains of Hodgdon 4350 in Remington cases and set off with Remington’s large rifle primer. Mar 27, 2011 949 1 Western Montana. A 150 grain Partition is more of a great thing. Introduced in 1962 with the Model 700 rifle, it featured 150- and 175-grain factory loads. Gilding metal (90 percent copper, 10 percent zinc) was first thought too soft for the friction generated by 150-grain bullets in .30-06 service ammunition. You may indeed have a runner, but with the X bullet I hear that it leaves a lot … I recently picked up a Winchester Model 70 FWT chambered in 280 Remington with a 22" barrel and I'm looking to develop some deer and elk loads. I'm partial to the long actions. As standard cartridges go, the .280 Remington has one of the oddest histories. The 280 Remington and the 284 Winchester will shoot bullets of 160 grains and heavier to nearly the same velocity and point of impact. FAQs; Categories. get a .280 people take elk with .270 and .30-06 all the time do you handload? One is a pointed Core-Lokt, one is a Nosler ballistic tip, and the third is a boat-tail spitzer bullet. Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:11 pm . Due to conservative loading of the .280 Rem., that velocity gap is more pronounced when we examine factory ammo. My buddy doesn't think so. The .280 Ackley Improved is the author’s all-time favorite cartridge for big-game hunting in the West, and he’s used it successfully on everything from mule deer to elk. Seems to me like I should be able to load it with as much Hodgdon H-380 as my 30-06 with a 150 Sierra BTSP. Sep 6, 2003 #2 W. whitedeer New member. I like to think of the 280 as a 7mm magnum but without the added powder, recoil, and muzzle blast. In the article he includes some reloading data and ballistic results for several calibers, including the .280 Remington. Not every possible caliber is listed, of course, but if you shoot an unlisted caliber there will probably be a listed caliber that is similar. Factory Ammunition Remington currently produce four loads for the .280 including, the 140 grain Core-Lokt at an advertised 3000fps, the 140 grain Accutip at 3000fps, the 150 grain Core-Lokt at 2890fps and the 165 grain Core-Lokt round nose bullet at 2820fps. I have hunted a few different 280s for elk over the years along with one or two elk taken with a 7mag. higher ballistic coefficients at the top of the weight spectrum than .277″ bullets. My own experience is pretty much in line with the favorable comments regarding the .280 and elk. I have killed a lot of pronghorn and deer with this cartridge, but only three head of elk; however, all three were one shot kills using the 160 Sierra Gameking at about 2850 fps. Calibers available are 260 Remington, 270 Win., 280 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, and 30-06. Though it's not an extremely popular elk cartridge, there's not a darn reason why you can't go elk hunting with the 280 AI. In 7mm you can specify 1-8” or 1-9.5” twist rates. W. Work2hunt Veteran member. By Joseph von Benedikt. Shaw Custom Barrels sells new barrels in five different contours chambered, crowned, and threaded for your specified action for as little as $160.